Name: James Hogue
Died: 31 Oct 1827
Place: Butler Co., OH
Place: Collinsville Cemetery
Place: Cumberland Co., PA
I once told my maternal uncle, Ron Hogue, that he
was descended from a long line of old men:
James Hogue was 46 at the birth of
John Hogue who was 46 at
the birth of
Robert Irwin Hogue who was 47 at the birth of
Hugh Wallace Hogue who was 45 at the birth of
Ronald Hugh Hogue in 1939
The "tradition," however, stopped there. Ron and his only child, Heather,
died prematurely and only a couple of years apart from one another.
Although we are in the unfortunate position of being unable to move that
line forward into the future, we can help honor their memories by looking
further back into time, further into the history of their legacies.
If James and Margaret indeed married in 1783, it's difficult to believe
they waited fifteen years to have children.
||Elizabeth was born in KY and married Joseph Gaston
McQuiston in Butler Co OH. She and her husband died in Warren County OH.
Three known children: James Hogue McQuiston, Margaret McQuiston and
William Hugh McQuiston.
||Married Ann R Simpson. Findagrave
James Hogue appears on the 1810 tax list for Butler county, Ohio. This is
the only reliable census data known for him. Was there another
1820 > OHIO > BUTLER > WAYNE
Series: M33 Roll: 87 Page: 128
James Houge 000101 011010 1
See Descendants of James Hogue to Five
Generations for additional information on James's descendants.
James Hogue Article
My grandmother received the following along with a letter from her niece
(in-law), Jody Hogue Bentson, in 1987. Judging from the content of the
letter, Jody was responding to Birdie's phone call, which she might have
very well have made at my instigation.
Jody did not know who the writer was. Evidently, it was a son or daughter
of Robert Irwin Hogue, James's son. And judging from what follows, the
author was still living in Ringgold county. "Uncle Bob" and aunts Bertha and
Ethel (who my cousins, Patty and Rhonda, fondly recall from their childhood
summer vacations in Tingley) remained in the area all their lives. It seems
unlikely this would have been written by my grandfather, Hugh Hogue, or by
Jody's father, "Uncle Harry".
All five siblings mentioned above lived to the 1960s. I'd suspect that
what follows was written mid-century, certainly well beyond any possibility
of personal knowledge. Since they were third cousins to Margaret Milne, the
DAR applicant, it seems likely to me that she was the source of the
information, although it is not known just what they would have learned from
their own father, Robert (1846-1929). Whoever the writer was, the remark
about the chicken thief is of the kind of humor I came to expect from my Iowa
I've retained all punctuation and grammarical errors as found in my copy,
itself a type-written transcription.
Our father, Robert Irwin Hogue, was born in Butler County, Ohio, Sept. 13,
1846. He was the son of John Hogue, who was born also in Butler County,
Ohio, April 17, 1800. The latter was the son of James Hogue, who was born in
Ireland in 1754.
Great Grandfather, James Hogue came from Ireland to America at the age of 15
years. When he was 16 years old he went to Carlisle, Pa. to reap. Shortly
after that he enlisted in Capt. Hendrick's Rifle Co., and they were drafted
to Quebec. He served Five and One half years in the Revolutionary War.
About the year 1784 he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky, and later to
Butler County Ohio. He got a ticket of 40 shillings for his service on the
Trumbull frigate, which is all the pay he got for his five and one
half years service. He was married some years after returning from the
Our connections as far as I know are all respectable, law-abiding citizens.
However in recent years there are some Hogue families residing in this
Ringgold County, Iowa, As far as I know they are not related to us. Our
father and his three brothers came to Iowa about 60 years age, and these
Hogues, who are here do not belong to any of these families. If they should
be related it must be quite distant. One, however, was in jail for chicken
stealing, so I am not anxious to trace any relationship.
According to the Navy Department Library
(http://www.history.navy.mil/library), the Trumbull was commissioned
from 1776-1781. The following is from page 280 of The Lives of Eminent
Philadelphians, Now Deceased, by Henry Simpson.
In July of this year , [Richard] Dale sailed from the capes of
Delaware as lieutenant of the Trumbull frigate, Captain James
Nicholson. When at sea but a few hours, they fell in with a British frigate
and sloop-of-war. After a severe engagement in a dark and stormy night, the
Trumbull, having been crippled by the gale, was compelled to strike
her flag to a force vastly superior. Lieutenant Dale was severely wounded
in this encounter. In a short time he was put on Long Island a prisoner on
parole; he was soon afterwards exchanged, and, in November, 1781, returned
Navybuddies.com states that
Captain James Nicholson (1737-1804) was the senior Continental Navy Captain
in the Revolutionary War. Prior to receiving his commission in the
Continental Navy, he served in the Colonial Navy with the British and was
present during the assault on Havana in 1762. During the Revolutionary War,
he commanded three ships of the line: Defense, Turnbull and
Virginia. Most notable, when his ship was blockaded at Baltimore,
Captain Nicholson took his men to join Washington at Trenton, and aided in
According to the Wikipedia article,
List of Continental Army units (1775), "Captain William Hendricks'
Company and Captain Matthew Smith's Company assigned to Northern Department
September 8, 1775; marched to Quebec under Benedict Arnold; captured at
Quebec December 31, 1775."
From page 4 of Pennsylvania in the War of the Revolution, Battalions
and Line, 1775-1783:
On the 11th of July Congress was informed that two companies had been raised
in Lancaster county instead of one, and it resolved that both companies be
taken into the Continental service. This battalion, therefore, consisted of
nine companies, enlisted as follows: Chambers' and Hendricks: in Cumberland
county, Doudel's in York, Ross' and Smith's in Lancaster, Lowdon's in
Northumberland, Cluggage's in Bedford, Nagel's in Berks, and Capt. Abraham
Miller's, in Northampton."
Captain Hendricks was born in Cumerberland County and was killed in the
engagement at Quebec. James Hogge is listed as being in his service on page
25 of the same book along with the note, "resided in Cumberland county in
This is part of a much larger article about William C Elder, a
great-grandson of James's. Much of it is difficult to swallow, particularly
that James met the brother of the King.
A History of Northwest Missouri
edited by Walter Williams
Published by The Lewis publishing company, 1915
The maternal grandfather of Mr. Elder was John Hogue, a son of James Hogue.
James Hogue was born in Ireland in 1754, came to America at the age of
fifteen, and a year later found work at Carlisle, Pennsylvania. From that
community a few years later he enlisted for service during the American
Revolution in Captain Henrick's Rifle Company, and in three days was on his
way to Boston. At that city his company was assigned to the Quebec
expedition under General Benedict Arnold, made the arduous campaign to the
St. Lawrence, participated in the battle and the storming of the heights,
and was taken a prisoner after General Montgomery was killed. The British
threatened to send all the English, Irish and Scotch back to England to be
hanged as traitors unless they enlisted and fought against the Americans.
Before the prisoners were sent off James Hogue and Thomas Walker escaped,
were recaptured, again escaped, and while living among the French the
British authorities again apprehended him, and tried him by court martial
and sent him to England. While being taken to prison in England he got
loose from his captors, hid for a time in a cellar, and then traveled
overland towards London. While on the way he met the king's brother, the
Duke of Gloucester, who asked him and his companions what ship they belonged
to. They explained to the duke that they had permission to go by land to
London. In London they were once more captured, made their escape and James
Hogue was finally put aboard a British ship bound for Halifax, subsequently
sent to Charleston, South Carolina, then back to Halifax, and there was put
on board an English privateer which fell in with an American vessel and in
the engagement the British ship was captured. Mr. Hogue quickly made
friends with the captain of the American ship, finally reached Baltimore,
and was assigned to service on the American frigate Trumbull. After
about five and a half years of service in the many vicissitudes between the
English and Americans, he reached Philadelphia, and was granted as pay for
his work in the patriot cause a ticket for forty shillings. In 1784 James
Hogue moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky and in 1788 to Butler County,
Ohio, which was his home until 1826. One of his children was John Hogue,
maternal grandfather of William C. Elder.
Both of James's children were born in Kentucky so the idea that he had
gone into Ohio as early as 1788 is unlikely.
I'd been aware of the following article for decades, but never saw a copy
until I visited the DAR library in Washington, DC during July, 2012. It was
included as proof in the DAR application of Margaret McQuiston Milne
(3William Hugh McQuiston, 2Elizabeth Hogue,
1James Hogue), and is filed as document #6612457. The following
points should be noted:
- James Hogue's birth year does not match up with the
arithmetic of his stated ages, as spelled out in the first paragraph. The
Quebec occurred in December, 1775. If James was born in 1754, he would
have been about 21, not 16 or 17, as inferred here. It would make better
sense if he had been in Pennsylvania for seven or eight years rather
than days. In other words, this makes sense: Born Ireland 1754; immigrated
1769; moved to Carlisle 1770; enlisted 1775.
- A James Hogg is found listed in the "Battalion of Riflemen" and is noted
as having been captured. The entry in Pennsylvania in the War of the
Revolution further states that he was living in Cumberland county, PA in
1794, which doesn't agree with James's account.1
- There was a well-known Thomas
Walker whose story somewhat dovetails James's. Although also captured
by the British and released when the Americans intercepted the ship, he was
an important merchant, not a soldier. He had a large estate in Montreal
where he played host to Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Chase, and Charles Carroll
in 1776. There was an enlisted private of the same name in Col William
Thompson's company, also noted as being captured.2
- James Hogue married Margaret Irwin. Her parentage is unknown but it has
long been suspected she was a sister of James Irwin (1758-1847), who
received a pension for his service and who had children Ann, John, Mary,
Jane, James, Robert, William, Nancy, David S, and George. If the following
was taken down by David, he might have been a nephew to James
- The narrative would have been fifty years old when it was published in
1878. Did the original copy travel from Ohio to Illinois with the Hogues or
(more likely) with the McQuistons? Is there any chance that the original
There is virtually no genealogical information in James's narrative, but
it makes for one hell of a yarn. To help determine its veracity, I've
linked to further information. I italicized those nouns and terms that
I'm not yet been able to identify.
1827 Narrative of James Hogue
Who Served in the Revolutionary War Five Years and a Half
(Written by D. S. Irwin, Jan. 7 1827, and published in the Monmouth Atlas,
I was born in Ireland, in the year of 1754. At the age of fifteen, I came
to America. When I was about sixteen, I went to Carlisle, Penn., to reap.
After I had been there seven or eight days [years?], I enlisted in Captain
Henricks' Rifle Company. In three days we set out for Boston; and in a few
days after we arrived in Boston we were drafted to Quebec.3 We
got scarce of provisions—so scarce that each man had but one pint of
flour to subsist on for thirteen days. While in our distress, there came a
drove of cattle, of which we killed some to eat. After we had refreshed
ourselves, we marched on again until we arrived at Quebec. After we had
laid there two or three weeks, Gen. Montgomery arrived with an army and
laid siege to the upper part of the town; at the same time, Gen. Arnold
(the General under whose command we were) laid siege to the lower part of
the town. The battle then commenced, in which Gen. Montgomery and his
aid-de-camp were killed, and his army retreated.
When the British saw that Montgomery was dead, and that his army had
retreated, they took us prisoners.4 When we were taken, the
British General, whose name was Charlton
[sic], took down the names of all the English, Irish and Scotchmen, and
told us we must go to England and be hung, or enlist with him and fight
against America. So we chose to enlist with him.5
As soon as the Americans had left Quebec, we were sent to Montreal, to
keep garrison. We had not been there more than two or three weeks, till
Thomas Walker and I deserted. We had not traveled far till we parted.
Soon after I had left him, I was taken by five Englishmen. I escaped from
them, but they followed me about thirty miles and took me again, and put me
in a Quebec jail. There were twelve of us in one room. I had not been long
in till we broke jail; six of us made our escape and left six in jail.
After I escaped jail, I went to Walker again.
We lived one summer with the French, and then we were taken again and
sent to Montreal, tried by a court martial, and sentenced to be transported
to Bay Baudoras, to cut logwood.10 But we were not sent,
but sent to Quebec again, put on board a ship and sailed for England. While
were were sailing, we became very intimate with some of the sailors, so that
we might desert when we came on shore.
Portsmouth. Routes to London are 75-90 miles
When we landed at Portsmouth, we were kept on board for eight days. So on
a day when there was a fair in town, the captain sent three of his men, with
fixed bayonets, to take us to prison. When we were going through the crowd,
we escaped from them and ran through the town till we came to an old cellar,
and stayed there till night, took off our soldiers' clothes and put on our
sailors' clothes. As soon as it became dark, we left the cellar and got on
the road that led to London.
We traveled all that night; in the morning we got our breakfasts, which
cost us twelve pence, which was all the money we had. After we had traveled
some distance, the Duke
of Glouchester [sic] (the King's brother) overtook us, and asked us a
number of questions and inquired what ship we belonged to. We
told him that we belonged to the Montreal
frigate. He asked us how we came to leave our ship. We told him that
we were left sick in the hospital, and had our choice to travel by land or
water, and that we chose to travel by land to see the country. So he gave
me a guinea and Walker a crown piece to get shoes for myself and bear our
expenses to London, and told us to stop at a certain tavern in Kingston and
get our dinner on his account, and then he left us.12
When we came to Kingston, we were afraid to stop for fear we would be taken
up. But when we came to the tavern at which we were to stop, the landlord
called to us and asked us if we were the men who were to dinner on the
Duke's account. We told him that we were. Then he took us in and gave us
our dinner and a mug of porter to drink. After we had refreshed ourselves,
we went on toward London, and arrived there that night.
When we came into the town, we thought it best not to lodge at any public
house for fear they would ask us too many questions. So we stopped at a
widow's house and called for some refreshments. While we were sitting at
the table (taking our refreshments) that stood near a window that fronted
the street, the press
gang came by the window and saw us. When they observed our dress, they
came in and took us prisoners and put us in the Savee. After we had
been there about two weeks, we made our escape. We had not gone far till
Walker and I parted. He said he would go back to London and try to get on a
ship that was going to America; but I said that I would never go to London
again unless I was compelled to go. So he went to London, and I went toward
Willedge, a little town on the Thames river.
When I got some distance, I saw a man on a gibbet, and a man watching
him, lest any person should give him bread, so the senty [sic] told me that
if I would go up opposite the town and hail a boat, they would come over for
me. Then I went up and called for a boat and there come one over for me,
but I had no money to pay them. So they said they would not ask anything.
They asked me what ship I wanted to go to. I told them a merchant vessel.
Then they took me to one and asked the captain if he wanted to hire a hand.
So he offered me £4 s. 10 per month and the river wages; but
the boatsmen told me that I could get higher wages at another ship. So they
took me to a bomb
ship. When I went on board, I found the wages lower that I was offered
on the other ship; but I soon found that I was obliged to stay. The name of
the ship was Vesuvius.
In three or four weeks she sailed round to Portsmouth. I took the fever
while at Portsmouth and was put into a hospital. After I recovered I was
put on board the guard ship. Soon after, I was drafted from the guard ship
to the Robust, a
ship-of-war, of 74 guns. In a few days we sailed, in company with
forty-nine other ships, for Halifax. Soon after we came to Halifax, we
sailed to New York, took in the English soldiers that were at New York and
sailed to Charleston, S.C. We had not been long at Charleston, till the
whole ship's crew took the scurvy and some died with it. After we had laid
three or four weeks at Charleston, we sailed again for Halifax, and after
we landed I went and engaged with the captain of an English privateer.
We went out, and after some time we fell in with an American privateer, and
we fought with them two hours and five minutes, and they took us prisoners.
After we were taken, I told the captain my narrative. So he told me that if
I would work my passage to Boston, he would give me a discharge, to go into
any part of America that I wished.
When we landed at Boston I went to the captain for my discharge; but he
told me that he could not give it without the permission of the Governor.
So there came to the ship a lieutenant of the Trumbull
frigate, and asked if there were any that would enter on board with him for
three months or the first intended port. So I said I would enter with him.
We set out and sailed to New York, from that to Baltimore. When we came to
Baltimore, there came out two English ships and chased us up as far as New
Castle, Delaware, and then left off to follow us. When they left us, the
captain told us that if we would take the ship safe to Philadelphia, that he
would give us our discharges.7 When we landed at Philadelphia, I
went to the captain time after time for my discharge; but he still put me
off.8 So I soon started without my discharge; but after I had
passed through Lancaster and Middletown, I was taken up by Captain
Smith, who was obliged to take any soldier that had no
pass.11 So he locked me up in his house, and I laid down and
slept until morning.
A contemporary hike from Philadelphia to Carlisle via Lancaster and
About the break of day his two daughters came to me and told me to get
up, take some refreshments, and start away before their father would be
up.6 So I set out again and traveled on till towards evening; but
I began to be hungry, so I stopped at a house and asked the landlady for
something to eat. Then she asked me if I had a pass. I told her that I had
none. Then she said I must be taken up. So she called to her husband, who
came and told me that I must be taken to Esq. Green. I asked him if
he ever knew a sailor to have a pass. Then he concluded that it was best to
let me go, so I arrived home in about two days after.
After some years, I went back to Philadelphia to get my pay. I got a
ticket of forty shillings for my service on the Trumbull frigate, which was
all the pay I got for five and a half years of service.
I was some years home before I was married. About the year 1784, we moved
from Pennsylvania to Kentucky.
In 1808, we moved to the state of Ohio; and now I reside in the state of
Ohio, the County of Butler; and I am now about seventy-two years old. As my
memory is now bad, and having kept no journal, I can give but a brief
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