Name: Margaret Irwin
Born: ca. 1762
Died: 30 Jul 1830
Place: Butler Co., OH
Buried:
Place: Collinsville Cememtery
To my knowledge, no primary record mentioning James Hogue's wife by name
has surfaced. The closest thing to it is the cemetery record, transcribed
here as found in Butler County, Ohio Cemetery
Records:1
Hogue, Polly d. 30 July 1830, ae 68 yrs wife of James.
Polly, of course, was the common nickname for Mary. Was she James's
second wife or was Margaret Irwin really Mary Irwin? Much of what is known
about this couple, the marriage in particular, appears to have come down to
us from Margaret (McQuiston) Milne (1859-1930), their great-granddaughter.
The question, naturally, is whether Milne had primary documentation
available to her or whether she was relying on stories passed down through
the family. Could it be that we're not finding evidence of Margaret Irwin's
parents because we should be looking for Mary Irwin? Nevertheless, "Mrs
Hogue" is traditionally known as Margaret and that's how I'll refer to her
until something different is proven.
James Irwin
There was a large family of Irwins in Butler County, some of whom had
emigrated from Cumberland county PA, from where James Hogue served during
the Revolution. I have often wondered if Margaret might have been a sister
of the James Irwin who died in Butler county, Ohio, 10 Feb 1847, age 88
years, 5 months and 24 days. (Revolutionary War pension claim S.9743.) He
had a son named Robert Irwin, born 19 Mar 1795. Margaret's son, John Hogue,
had sons James Irwin Hogue (1827-1838) and Robert Irwin Hogue
(1846-1929).
The following is from Kathy Edgington's genforum post Re: Robert born 1795 to Butler co Ohio...
James Irwin was born October 16, 1758 in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.
His parents have not been identified. James Irwin and his wife, Agnes, were
married in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania on February 2, 1786. Agnes'
maiden name has not been found. Their children as listed in "The Irvines and
Their Kin" by L. Boyd in 1908 page 303-304 were:
Ann Irwin born November 1, 1786
John Irwin born February 18, 1788
Mary Irwin born April 9, 1789
Jane Irwin born May 19, 1791
James Irwin born March 12, 1793
Robert Irwin born March 19, 1795
William Irwin born October 19, 1797
Nancy Irwin born November 25, 1799
David S. Irwin born January 7, 1802
George Irwin born October 11, 1805
James Irwin and his son Robert Irwin moved to Warren County, Ohio and then
to Bulter County, Ohio in 1798. It appears that the rest of the family came
to Butler County at this same time.
Kathy later posted the following to the same board:
James Irwin participated in the Revolutionary War and his pension claim,
S.9743 tells of his service: "While a resident of Cumberland County,
Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the autumn of 1777 and served two months as a
private in Captain William Graham's Pennsylvania Company. He enlisted in
July 1778, and served two months as a private in Captain David Boal's
Pennsylvania Company. He was allowed pension on his application executed
October 18, 1832, while a resident of Bulter County, Ohio. Robert Irwin, a
resident of Butler County, Ohio, appeared in support of the claim in 1832,
relationship not stated. There are no family data included." The October,
1832, deposition sworn by Robert Irwin was that James Irwin was on a tour of
duty in 1780 or 1781 under Captain Boles. Robert Irwin had been in the same
company and they had been stationed in the Cusecoquilla Valley. A November,
1833, deposition states that Robert Irwin, now deceased, was a citizen of
good character for truth and veracity.
And then this, in reference to a will on Cumberland County PA, posted to
the same thread:
http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?896,456918
Irwin, John
Posted by: Joan Christopher
Date: July 04, 2006 01:13AM
John Irwin, yeoman, late of Milford Township; will dated 7 February 1771;
proven 10 October 1771. Wife Mary; sons: Robert (under 21), Thomas (under
18), James. Daughters: Mary Irwin, Elizabeth Irwin, Margaret Irwin, Catharine
Irwin (youngest). Holds land with William McClay on Shearer's Creek.
Executors: my wife, Samuel Mitchell and Thomas Elliot.
Witnesses: James Irwin and Thomas Beal.
(Source: Cumberland County, PA Wills; pages 150-152, probably in Will Book
1)
As noted below, there are sone errors in the reading of John Erwin's
will.
And this...
James Irwin born 16 Oct 1758 in Cumberland County, PA; died 10 Feb 1847 and
is buried at Pisgah Prebyterian Cemetery in West Chester Township, Butler
County, OH. This would have made him 13 years old when John Irwin died, his
father unless another James Irwin is referred to as being witness to the
will. Kathy
Will of John Erwin, 1771
This is my recent transcription of the index entry for John Irwin's will
in the microfilm found at familysearch.org:3
Name of Defendant or Ward
| Residence
| Date of Letters
| Character of Letters
| Name of Executor, Adminstrator or Guardian
| No. of Will
| Book
| Page
| Inventory: Date Filed
| Inventory: No.
| Account: Date Filed
| Account:Partial or Final
| Account: No.
|
Irwin, John
Milford
| Oct. 10, 1771
T
| Samuel Mitchell
Thomas Elliot
Mary Irwin
3
| B
| 150 97
| 1776
Aug 19, 1775
Nov 14, 1778
5
3
6
| Oct. 22, 1777
May 22, 1776
A
A
| 4
3
| | | | | |
A number of Irwins left wills in the county during this period. All of
them need to be studied. Even if it can be shown that Margaret (c1762-1830)
and James (1758-1847) were siblings, we have, for now, only the one possible
lead (John Irwin's 1771 will) as to
their parentage. About that, it should be noted that John states that his
eldest son is Thomas (page 97 - age not stated). It further make provisions
that his son James be obligated to take care of his "little sisters" until
he is 18 years old (page 99). The ages of the daughters aren't mentioned
except that Catherine is the youngest. James, obviously a minor, could not
have been the James Erwin who witnessed the will. It might be suggested
that he was John's brother. (If the son was our James Irwin, he would have
been about 13.) Also note that James Irwin's eldest son was named John,
which, if this John was his father, would be in keeping traditional
Scottish naming conventions.
In any case, the idea that this James is the son of Archibald Irwin is
preposterous once reading this paragraph from Irwin Family History at
http://irwinsoldandnew.blogspot.com/2014/10/archibald-irwin-house-mercersburg-pa-is.html.
During the Revolutionary War, Archibald Irwin's oldest son, James, began to
do commissary duty for the Western Army at Irwinton's Mills. James Irwin
organized pack horse trains to carry flour, meat and other provisions to
Pittsburgh for the Western Army. James Irwin acted as an assistant
commissary under the appointment of Col. George Morgan, who was Commissary
General for the Western Army, whose headquarters were at Pittsburgh.
The Narrative of
James Hogue was written by James Irwin's son, David S
Irwin.
James Irwin Y-DNA
The Y-DNA Markers for a descendant of James's (kit #514436) is listed at
The
Irwin DNA Project under section GRAHAM. The tester is shown as
belonging to Y-DNA haplogroup J-M267 (rare in Europe) and is a near-perfect
STR match to a descendant of William Alexander Graham, b. Ireland abt 1740,
who has tested positive for haplogroup J-L1253, downstream of J-M267.
Another tester in this group is J-BY89. According to Lloyd D Graham in The
Grahams of the 16-17th century Anglo-Scottish Border and their descendants
in Rossadown, Co. Laois, Ireland, "When this SNP [J-L1253] is found
in a tester with the surname Johns(t)on, Brown, Jordan, Armstrong, or
Irving/Irwin, it is a strong indicator that the individual is genetically a
Graham and has 'Border reiver' heritage."
Thomas Irwin
James McBride's history of Butler County,
Ohio, includes a long biographical article on Thomas Irwin, born in
Lancaster County, PA in 1768.2 He was a military man, rose to the
rank of Colonel, and was elected to the State Legislature. His memoirs,
apparently, were published. He died in Lemon township 3 October 1847. I
have found nothing to connect him to the other Irwins.
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